Inside the referees’ locker room: An explanation of the controversial red card on Sounders’ Chad Marshall

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Referee Baldomero Toledo, shown here in a file photo from a prior year’s Sounders match, agreed to speak to a Seattle Times reporter in his locker room postgame on Saturday to discuss his controversial red card handed to defender Chad Marshall. The team has appealed the ruling. (Dean Rutz / The Seattle Times)

Standing inside a referees’ locker room at CenturyLink Field was the last place I’d expected to be after last weekend’s Sounders contest ended.

But in the 77thminute, Sounders center back Chad Marshall upended Sporting Kansas City forward Johnny Russell on a play ultimately sent to video review and ending in a red card disqualification for a dangerous foul. As the pool reporter assigned to ask about controversial calls postgame, I scribbled out a simple question asking head referee Baldomero Toledo what he’d seen to merit ejection, then was escorted across the field to the officials’ room to hand deliver it.

The Sounders on Tuesday confirmed they’ve appealed the red card and Marshall’s automatic one-game suspension. And sources within the team were feeling confident about getting it rescinded and having Marshall — a strong candidate for Defender of the Year honors — eligible for the team’s next match at Vancouver on Sept. 15.

But regardless of what happens next, my postgame goal Saturday was hearing from Toledo on why he saw things differently than the stadium full of fans that spent the final 10 minutes booing him vociferously.

I’d been warned not to expect much: That MLS officials rarely respond to questions on video review calls and the most I’d get is a short, hand-written reply. Outside the locker room, accompanied by a Sounders official, we were met by a referee’s liaison who took my written question and told us Toledo would have up to 15 minutes per league rules to decide whether to respond.

I’ve never been big on overplaying officiating calls in stories. Most officials are just trying to earn a living and the way they get to keep doing that is by getting as many calls right as they can. They don’t get them all right; but are judging plays — and even replays — in a hurried state that requires snap judgments after only a few looks at most.

But I’ve never met with officials right after a game, or been inside their locker room. For all the notoriety they get, a shroud of secrecy and necessary distance is generally kept between them and the public.

This seemed a rare chance to glimpse beyond that. And after what felt like the full 15-minute delay allotment, the referee’s liaison opened the locker room door and, to our surprise, waved us in.

Toledo was standing at the center of the room, still in uniform, my question in-hand and his written response underneath it. His assistants were changing in a row of lockers directly opposite him.

“This is Geoff?’’ Toledo asked. “Nice to meet you, sir.’’

We shook hands. He handed me his written response that stated: “The considerations for the red card were: straight leg, cleats to an opponent’s upper calf and knee; a foul which endangered the safety of his opponent.’’

Before we could continue speaking, Dave Gantar, the Video Assistant Referee (VAR) that had flagged Toledo to review the Marshall play after no call was initially made, came over holding a smartphone.

“Look at the play,’’ Toledo implored, nodding his head toward the phone.

Gantar began replaying video of the incident.

“You see, the angles that were shown (on TV) apparently don’t show this,’’ he said.

Then, using words directly from Toledo’s written explanation, Gantar said the footage showed Marshall delivering “a straight leg, cleats to the knee’’ and held up the video showing the defender making contact with Russell in that fashion. “And so, what this is … is endangering the safety of an opponent. That’s a borderline broken leg (threat), or whatever on that front.’’

At this point, Toledo and the other assistants nodded in agreement. Gantar continued on, explaining that the ball was going in a different direction from Marshall when he had already started thrusting out his leg towards Russell.

Again, Toledo animatedly nodded in agreement.

“Look at what we did over here,’’ Toledo said, pointing at the video. “And he (Gantar) will explain everything.’’

Toledo then backed away.

“I don’t know if this is helpful to you, or not,’’ Gantar said, motioning to the video.

I assured him it was.

“The ball is going this way,’’ Gantar said, pointing to the ball on-screen moving away from Marshall to his right. “His (Marshall’s) leg and the force of where he’s going is straight into the player.’’

Indeed, the replay showed Marshall lifting his foot off the ground and starting to thrust his leg towards Russell a split second before the ball eventually changes direction after striking the oncoming SKC player. Only then does the ball head back toward Marshall and deflect off him as his foot strikes Russell.

Other, similar replays I’ve since looked at outside the room show the same thing.

Some plausible defenses of Marshall I’ve since heard expressed are that he’d instinctively tried to block a shot or pass. That he stuck his leg out anticipating the ball eventually deflecting off Russell’s feet and coming back towards him — which it did — and that he inadvertently struck the opponent’s knee with his cleats in doing so.

They argue that while it was certainly an inadvertent foul, it lacked the force, intent and intensity to be a red card. In fact, those are almost certainly arguments the Sounders used in their appeal.

But to officials inside the room: Marshall was playing the man instead of the ball and could have broken Russell’s leg.

“You can see it,’’ Gantar said. “If it’s foot-to-foot …’’

“Then, no problem,’’ said Toledo, finishing his sentence.

“But it’s foot to knee,’’ Gantar said. “Like, we’re talking here about serious injuries to people potentially. And that’s where ‘endangering the safety of an opponent’ comes into play.’’

At that point, assistant referee Ian Anderson jumped in.

“So, are you going to photograph this and publish it to the world on Twitter?” he said, motioning towards Toledo’s handwritten explanation.

Toledo burst out laughing. But Anderson appeared deadly serious. I assured him I would not.

“People have done that to us before and it makes us look bad,’’ Anderson said. “We get graded on our penmanship, we get criticized for our grammar …’’

The Sounders team representative assured them he’d type the response up for the media.

Gantar and Toledo thanked me for taking the time to hear them. They said the relationship between referees and the media has been rocky and that they need to do a better job of explaining their reasoning behind calls.

And they’d done just that, in some of the most detailed manner an MLS officiating crew apparently ever has. Their arguments might not survive an appeal that scrutinizes more video angles frame-by-frame for hours at a time, but at least we know why the call was initially made.

And issues the Sounders will have to tackle to get it overturned.

Geoff Baker: 206-464-8286 or . Geoff Baker covers hockey and is a sports enterprise and investigative reporter for The Seattle Times.